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Casting spells with a higher level slot

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Finniss	Casting spells with a higher level slot	Lead	[-]
Posts: 1388 (06/19/09 19:40:14) Cryptic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None I seem to recall that you could cast a spell using a higher level slot. I'm not talking about weaving a 4th level spell into two third level spells, I'm talking about casting the third level spell (not heightened version) with a single 4th (or 5th or even 10th) level slot in order to increase the difficulty of the saving throw (by one in this case). I cannot find this in the AE book. Does anyone know if I'm pulling this from the 3rd edition feat or if there really is this rule?
phindar		#1	[-]
Posts: 168 (06/20/09 09:37:44) Minimum 1 pt, right? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The rule in 3.5 is that you can always fill a higher level slot with a lower level spell: Spell Slots The various character class tables show how many spells of each level a character can cast per day. These openings for daily spells are called spell slots. A spellcaster always has the option to fill a higher-level spell slot with a lower-level spell. A spellcaster who lacks a high enough ability score to cast spells that would otherwise be his or her due still gets the slots but must fill them with spells of lower level. I've always assumed that you could do the same in AE, but I don't know if that specific rule is in the book.
Finniss		#2	[-]
Posts: 1390 (06/20/09 11:21:06) Cryptic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	When you do that, are they cast at the higher level, with a more difficult save?
seankreynolds		#3	[-]
Posts: 2378 (06/20/09 14:05:16) Archangel Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Not in regular D&D, otherwise there's no point in having the Heighten Spell feat. So a fireball prepped in a 5th level slot is still 3rd level for the purpose of DCs. I can't recall if AE got rid of Heighten Spell and just lets you do that and get the higher spell slot level bonus.
Finniss		#4	[-]
Posts: 1391 (06/20/09 17:00:41) Cryptic Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I can't recall if AE got rid of Heighten Spell and just lets you do that and get the higher spell slot level bonus. I thought that was the case, but I cannot find that rule anywhere.
Tiburon Silverflame		#5	[-]
Posts: 8192 (06/22/09 11:29:37) Enigma Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	But given the inherent inefficiency, you might as well allow it, especially in AE where you can unweave a spell slot. That 5th level slot could be used to cast a laden, heightened version of the 3rd level spell, which is frequently significantly more effective than just +2 on the save....but not always. Slow is one example. Of note, tho, my gut feeling is that the spells where this is a good idea, are going to be all or nothing spells...which also means, the save or die spells. Thus, this rule might encourage that spells class, and that's not something I'd want to see in a game at all.
Doctor Simon		#6	[-]
Posts: 234 (06/23/09 05:47:26) Just showed up Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tiburon Silverflame wrote: That 5th level slot could be used to cast a laden, heightened version of the 3rd level spell. Not to be nit-picky or anything, but wouldn't that be two 4th level slots?
Betma		#7	[-]
Posts: 179 (06/23/09 09:47:01) Spooky Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Precisely. That's why you would use a 5th level slot, unweaving it into two 4th level slots.
Doctor Simon		#8	[-]
Posts: 235 (07/13/09 04:15:33) Just showed up Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Oh... yeah. Forgot about that bit <A HREF="http://www.creativeconclave.co.uk">The Creative Conclave</a>: Building a World of Wonders

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