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Posts: 5803 (04/05/09 07:08:58) Moderator |
I think a monster with natural weapons who can also use a melee weapon can only do one or the other on a full attack but I can't find the rule.
For example, a medium dragon with a greatsword can only do bite/claw/claw/wing/wing OR greatsword and NOT bite/greatsword/wing/wing. |
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Posts: 58 (04/05/09 07:56:48) |
I didn't find it in the SRD, but on p. 299 of the 3.5 MM under "Full Attack," subheading "Natural and Manufactured Weapons" it seems
clear that a creature can attack with both, treating all of the natural attacks as secondary attacks.
Leland J. Tankersley
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Posts: 5804 (04/05/09 08:17:07) Moderator |
Ah, the manufactured weapons section. Thanks. Here that is in the SRD.
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Posts: 13760 (04/05/09 13:22:02) Keeper of the FAQ |
General consensus also says that they can't use any natural weapons that are required to hold the manufactured weapon(s) -- but I don't think
there's anything in the RAW to back this up.
Carthain.
"Eschew Obfuscation." |
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Posts: 5807 (04/05/09 16:15:05) Moderator |
I see. Makes sense though.
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Confused Jackal Mage |
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Posts: 6549 (04/06/09 05:36:10) Iron Liege |
I've put together some rules for this. Under my rules, the dragon would have two
combat modes (which he could with either his claws or manufactured weapons) and three special modes (bite, wing, wing).
"Observer-dependent physics undermines the gods' decision 3000 years ago to ban cats from straddling the borders of the
netherworld. We won't have it!"
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Posts: 318 (04/06/09 08:59:44) Minimum 1 pt, right? |
The dragon would get claw/claw/bite/wing/wing or greatsword (# of attacks depends on their base attack bonus)/bite/wing/wing, and the bite and wing attacks
would suffer a -5 penalty and add only 1/2 strength to damage because they're all secondary attacks.
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