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Eldric IV		#61	[-]
Posts: 10227 (05/11/09 12:02:01) Resident Paladin Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Except why Topher, who gives every impression of being a computer genius, has a personal computer set-up that is easily hacked by Dr. Saunders. How often was it mentioned that someone "easily hacked" into Dollhouse computers? I will forgive any mention by Alpha since he maybe has a computer genius imprint somewhere in there. Final Words, before the battle with Demogorgon: My life does not matter. It was given to me to better the lives of my people. Please give the Pureblade to my son so that he may finish what I start here today.
PaladinTodd		#62	[-]
Posts: 827 (05/11/09 12:26:57) Just showed up Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Alpha couldn't get into Topher's computer last episode (at least that's what he says). Saunders comments something like "I've got more computer skills than a doctor would seem to need". I got the impression that Topher wanted her to learn who she is, that he did it on purpose.
Aegir		#63	[-]
Posts: 205 (05/16/09 00:33:52) Minimum 1 pt, right? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Its not official, but signs point to Dollhouse having been renewed.
PaladinTodd		#64	[-]
Posts: 828 (05/18/09 19:38:40) Just showed up Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Officially renewed, and maybe some interesting reading on why: http://voices.washingtonp...eep_playing_with_do.html
Aegir		#65	[-]
Posts: 206 (05/19/09 10:30:47) Minimum 1 pt, right? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Huh, that is rather interesting. Nice to see some of these secondary markets are being noticed finally.
DerekDyer		#66	[-]
Posts: 7235 (05/26/09 11:28:57) Just showed up Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I've been saying this for awhile now. We're in a whole new world now with DVR, Hulu, and other technologies... heck even DVD sales of TV shows! Lets hope Whedon with Dollhouse can blaze a trail for "seemingly" lower rated shows to survive long enough for people to care. It would be nice if [the powers that be] they actually watched TV, that or those in charge were from a larger demographic to 'get' more types of programming. Edit: [^] Last Edited By: DerekDyer 09/30/09 15:49:35. Edited 1 times.
Aegir		#67	[-]
Posts: 225 (09/30/09 09:24:11) Minimum 1 pt, right? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	New season started last Friday, pretty good ep for those who missed it.
DerekDyer		#68	[-]
Posts: 7296 (09/30/09 16:00:34) Just showed up Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I thoroughly enjoyed it. The way I can describe my favorite kinds of TVshow or movie is... well written, original but not completely, that I can't predict how the story is going to go beforehand. Dollhouse, and most of Joss Whedon's work ("A man who has done fine works"), is exactly that. "We're making a better world. All of them better worlds."
rweston	I concur	#69	[-]
Posts: 1619 (10/01/09 15:11:40) Let Go My Lego! Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Espisode one of season two was excellent, creepy, philosophical & tragic. Topher's empathy & obvious ethical struggle was excellent. I picked up the DVD & watched the "13th" episode of season one. If you enjoy the series then this episode is a must see. Tophers line from season 2 ep.1 : "I know what I know" echoes from episode 13 very well. I'm glad I hung in there - as it was a bit rocky to start. Rory
SolissVL		#70	[-]
Posts: 773 (10/02/09 18:49:21) Minimum 1 pt, right? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I'm completely confused as to what's going on. But I've thoroughly enjoyed the first 2 ep. Well, I'm not totally lost. Just a little bit. It is getting MUCH better. -8 modifier to crunch-fu
PaladinTodd		#71	[-]
Posts: 850 (10/03/09 06:18:02) Just showed up Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I'm rapidly losing interest - and being creeped out Ballard, who considered Dollhouse to be murderers in season 1, is now using Echo as an uber-prostitute so he can get his FBI career back. The doctor - obviously in a lot of mental pain. unstable, and obviously heading towards trouble - is allowed to suffer for no apparaent reason (OK, maybe Topher is "hiding" how troubled the doctor is). Why not change her program? What's the worthwhile question the program asks that makes the morally questionable (at best) actions acceptable?
Eldric IV		#72	[-]
Posts: 10315 (10/03/09 07:55:25) Resident Paladin Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I have not watched the second episode but, like PaladinTodd, I was turned off by Ballard in the first episode. He lost a lot of credibility as a character as soon as he started working with the Dollhouse in any capacity. Final Words, before the battle with Demogorgon: My life does not matter. It was given to me to better the lives of my people. Please give the Pureblade to my son so that he may finish what I start here today.
Aegir		#73	[-]
Posts: 228 (10/05/09 09:35:57) Minimum 1 pt, right? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Then watch the second episode, it does alot to explain what he's doing. Bottom line, its a matter of keeping your friends close, and enemies closer. From both sides.
DerekDyer		#74	[-]
Posts: 7298 (10/05/09 12:21:16) Just showed up Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I don't get the whole "turned off by Ballard" attitude. You seem to be saying that he's so one dimensional that his only motivation is what was last put in front of us. Whedon's characters are rarely (if ever) so one sided, and never the ones who are driving the story. Just because he hasn't given on-screen time to show those other motivations or background machinations, doesn't mean they don't exist.
DerekDyer		#75	[-]
Posts: 7299 (10/05/09 12:22:45) Just showed up Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	x2
SolissVL		#76	[-]
Posts: 779 (10/05/09 12:33:58) Minimum 1 pt, right? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I thought it made perfect sense Ballard started working for the Dollhouse.* He never seemed exactly "stable" or all that interested in following the rules when he was in the FBI. What better way to prove you're right (and possibly vidicate your name, though, it seems mostly an obssession with him now) than joining those you hate to prove how awful they are? He does creep me out though. Of course, people with authority that are as singleminded as Ballard always creep me out. They can be very good at what they, but that doesn't make them less creepy. *After initially asking my wife, "Wait, wasn't he AGAINST them?" -8 modifier to crunch-fu
PaladinTodd		#77	[-]
Posts: 852 (10/06/09 06:59:35) Just showed up Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	It's not just Ballard, but I'll give the second episode a try. I'm wondering if Whedon, after his past experiences with TV, has become cynical and is taking some revenge with Dollhouse. The premise of Dollhouse is that people will willingly turn themselves into mindless zombies, happily committing amoral acts. They do this to avoid emotional pain or so that they do not have to take responsibility for their own actions that they should be rightly punished for. Above I ask why would anyone want to watch such amoral behavior. The same question can be asked of 90% of reality TV. Is there much difference between the Dolls and the average joe who comes home, sits on the couch, and willingly turns himself into a mindless zombie happily watching a never-ending collection of amorality on TV? (Holy crap, I'm arguing that TV is amoral. I am officially an old fart. Hey you kids, get off my lawn!). Dollhouse, with it's main character named "Echo", is saying there isn't much difference. As to Ballard, he's a standard archetype that we see all to much in real life: The self-righteous blowhard who justifies his actions by claiming holier-than-thou moral imperative. That moral cape is instantly shed though if it interferes with some action the blowhard wants to take. A new rationalization is quickly constructed to defend the new behavior. And then there's Boyd: The guy who knows it's wrong, is sickened by the wrongness, but sits back and does nothing. The Corporate Boss: Willingly to destroy anyone or anything for the good of the company. The show just seems full of a lot of unlikeable characters, doing unlikeable things.
DerekDyer		#78	[-]
Posts: 7308 (10/24/09 01:43:09) Just showed up Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	"And then there's Boyd: The guy who knows it's wrong, is sickened by the wrongness, but sits back and does nothing" He does what he can, and he's very aware of what little he can do. He has very little control or power over anything and knows better than to go against an unstoppable force, it tends to break things that gets in its path.
Aegir		#79	[-]
Posts: 229 (11/07/09 20:54:52) Minimum 1 pt, right? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Sure looks like this series is unofficially dead. Its been cut from sweeps week, and they'll be doubling up episodes starting in December to finish off the season.
DerekDyer		#80	[-]
Posts: 7314 (11/08/09 00:55:39) Just showed up Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	From dollverse.com: "I've noticed a bunch of TV ratings blogs and comments popping up on Twitter and here about the show being cancelled. Well - it is not cancelled. FOX took it off air during sweeps as they wanted to jack up their ratings so they met their advertising viewer level commitments from the upfronts. It's that simple. The show returns in December. If FOX didn't want the show on air, why on earth would they bring it back? Why not just keep airing repeats of other shows in its place if they got a bigger audience? Last season, we had to sit through a variety of different articles pronouncing the show dead. In fact, those articles started before it even shot its first episode. Well, into the early hours of this morning Dollhouse was shooting its 10th episode of season two - the last episode to air before Christmas. I remember months ago, one big site said the show was "99.9%" not coming back for season two. Several days later, it got picked up a second season. The big secret the network is sadly keeping from everybody right now is the episodes in December are pretty big 'event TV' episodes. Week 1, you're going to go so far down the Rossum Corporation hole you're going to get punched in the face by Summer Glau. Week 2, you're going to get your face horrifically messed up by Alpha. Week 3, you're going to learn more the Dolls and the Dollhouse than you could imagine. It ends on an episode written and directed by the folks behind Epitaph One and Belonging - generally considered the two best episodes of the series to date - and it's hilariously messed up. Oh, and then the show is back in January with an episode written and directed by Tim Minear of 'Omega' and 'Belle Chose' fame - two other fan favourite episodes. So, you know. People keep saying Dollhouse is dead. And they just keep being so very wrong. You know what is going to end? Society. The world. And Dollhouse is going to show you how that happens, and who causes it piece by piece."

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