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Posts: 201 (05/03/09 00:10:19) Minimum 1 pt, right? |
I dunno how many of you are still watching - and frankly I wouldn't suggest picking it up now if you haven't - but its definitely drawn me in all the
way at this point. The last ep where they reveal Alpha is amazing.
Looking around at the ratings data though, I'm fairly certain that this Friday will be the final episode. |
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Posts: 685 (05/03/09 05:11:18) Shadowy |
I have very much enjoyed the show. I hope that it is renewed but I think it likely will not be. I can add it to the list of shows I thought were great that
ended up getting cancelled from low ratings.
I know I don't believe or at least I believe I don't believe, you know? - Dr. Faust, Wittenberg
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Posts: 321 (05/03/09 06:29:20) What's going on? |
i know im really enjoying it
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Posts: 5380 (05/03/09 09:07:11) Moderator
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I have not seen all of them, but the ones i have seen since the first two have been great.
This last one would have been even better if IMDB hadn't given away the spoiler! |
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Posts: 646 (05/03/09 12:06:56) Minimum 1 pt, right? |
I gotta catch this latest one on hulu. Its gotten really good.
Out of curiosity, does hulu count towards ratings? I mean, I know it doesn't towards nielsen, but...do networks take hulu views into account on shows? -8 modifier to crunch-fu |
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Posts: 202 (05/03/09 22:49:54) Minimum 1 pt, right? |
Its not certain, but since hulu is owned by... what is it, NBC I *think* (its one of the major TV studios), I'm sure its known. I know alot of ratings
sites have started mentioning ratings based off multiple sources, such as original airing, as well as delayed (off a DVR), and from digital sources, which I
can only assume are the station websites (most provide their shows on their websites after they air nowadays), and I would guess hulu is among that source.
However, from my understanding, even DVR ratings (to say nothing for digital) are given very little regard towards a shows popularity currently. |
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Posts: 10216 (05/03/09 22:57:46) Resident Paladin |
Hulu is FOX and NBC. Disney-ABC recently bought about a 25% share in Hulu as well.
**Final Words, before the battle with Demogorgon: My life does not matter. It was given to me to better the lives of my people. Please give the Pureblade to my
son so that he may finish what I start here today.**
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Posts: 9735 (05/04/09 07:44:36) Strange |
Even though they say that DVR use counts, I'm skeptical. I'm even more skeptical that online viewing counts.
It would be one more reason why shows that appeal only to geeks (Chuck, Sarah Connor, Dollhouse, etc.) are always on the bubble, as they say. 
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Posts: 824 (05/04/09 09:19:47) Just showed up |
I'm just hoping they give us some sort of conclusion next week, not leave us with a cliffhanger and nothing resolved. Perhaps that was the point of the
orphan - next season's main plot - and they'll wrap up Alpha and FBI-man (please wrap-up FBI man, his grimace is really getting on my nerves).
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Posts: 334 (05/04/09 11:19:08) Minimum 1 pt, right? |
What I loved about that last episode was that it had Whedon's imprint all over it. The fairy tale structure, the parallels, the twist... you could tell
that this is one he made to satisfy himself, not some marketing genius from the network.
Also, Alan Tudyk! Why can't everything have a little Alan Tudyk in it? He is Chemical X for entertainment. |
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Posts: 10219 (05/04/09 11:46:11) Resident Paladin |
The reason I doubt online views count is that an episode of Dollhouse on Hulu has five or six 30 second commercials total. On air, there is four or five times
as many. And I will bet that their impression of online viewers is we are less frequent shoppers and buyers.
**Final Words, before the battle with Demogorgon: My life does not matter. It was given to me to better the lives of my people. Please give the Pureblade to my
son so that he may finish what I start here today.**
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Posts: 648 (05/04/09 12:36:39) Minimum 1 pt, right? |
Monte Cook wrote:Sadly, I think you and Elric IV are probably correct. I keep hoping that the sheer attractiveness of the female leads will keep them going. At least long enough to come to some nice resolution. It works for shows that are far less interesting or well written. Oh wait, this is TV. Its sort of a bizzaro world where quality has no bearing on success. 
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Aegir |
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Posts: 203 (05/04/09 21:29:26) Minimum 1 pt, right? |
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Posts: 327 (05/06/09 16:32:42) What's going on? |
Monte Cook wrote:Hey as someone who has one of the little boxes in my house that records viewing etc If i watch something on a DVR/media player or similar that was recorded in the past week off australian TV it counts. (even if i download it but it was originally recorded off australian tv) If i watch something recorded/downloaded and i watch it through my PS3 it doesn't count as it registers as a game |
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Posts: 10226 (05/08/09 01:28:16) Resident Paladin |
Finally had time to watch last week's episode. Awesome. I especially liked the cameo of Wash from Firefly. I am always surprised by the size of his arms
given that he presents such a pencil-neck face.
**Final Words, before the battle with Demogorgon: My life does not matter. It was given to me to better the lives of my people. Please give the Pureblade to my
son so that he may finish what I start here today.**
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Posts: 1866 (05/08/09 06:07:25) Shadowy |
Well, although I am not completely enamored with Dollhouse, I lament the fact that its timeslot will most likely be replaced by some reality tv drivel. I
really want a sci-fi series to succeed so I can look forward to it, but alas, I think we are doomed.
Even sci-fi and fantasy I don't completely like is heads and shoulders above the best rated reality tv.
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Posts: 825 (05/08/09 07:10:15) Just showed up |
What do you guys think of the morality of Dollhouse?
Many of the assignments are basically prostitution. The dolls either know this going in and agreed to it or the management did not tell them they'd be doing that. Either way, it ranks pretty low on the morality scale. Dominic was, essentially, murdered. He was an NSA agent - someone who would usually be considered a "good guy". Sure he tried to kill Echo and was willing to frame someone else knowing they'd be murdered - but on the morality scale I'd still put Dominic above Echo and the Dollhouse employees. (Imagine Dollhouse as a Bond movie with Dominic as Bond infiltrating the criminal organization. Dominic is clearly the "good guy" and there's no qualms about him trying to kill Echo). Ballard, FBI agent, clearly the good guy. They're considering killing him. Boyd might be the only one stopping it. Or consider the basic premise, if your life is really bad there's an organization that can make it all go away. Sure, you'll do really horrible things to make it go away but at least you won't remember the bad things and, in Echo's case, you don't have to take responsibility for the bad things. Is that much different than turning to alcohol or drugs when life gets bad? I'm not sure that the show is really exploring those moral issues. Boyd and the doctor mention it on occasion, but nothing really comes of it. It's more entertainment and we're supposed to not pay to much attention to the moral implications of it all. |
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Posts: 204 (05/09/09 09:42:26) Minimum 1 pt, right? |
I gotta say I was a bit disappointed by how the finale went down. Overall it was very good, but still a bit disappointed. (warning, odds are theres a spoiler
or two incoming)
. . . . . First, it would appear (and of course all of this assumes its picked up, which seems like a longshot) that November is gone, which is sad, but then again that character was gone once she was recalled from her sleeper status. It would seem Echo's transformation into "Omega" is more or less complete, though it would also seem shes nothing like Alpha. The fact that even without their memories, the actives are influenced by the people they once were is a not-entirely-surprising one, but interesting nonetheless. The reason Alpha keyed on Echo was a rather interesting one though. The fact that Dr Saunders is a former doll was not a surprise in the least, I expected it pretty much all along, though the longer the ruse went, the more the shadow of doubt crept in. Overall, I'd really like to see the series picked up, but I'd still trade it in a heartbeat for more Firefly... and oddly enough, if it is picked up, I'll not be able to help feeling a teeny bit of bitterness over that fact (it was while Firefly wasn't). But, I still suspect its all a moot point.My disappointment may well be in part because I expect its a dead series, and so much of this will never be answered. |
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Posts: 5875 (05/09/09 13:52:20) Moderator |
PT, wasn't the point with Dominic that he was simply watching and protecting the Dollhouse from being exposed? Far from disapproving, I got the impression
they were interested in the technology.
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Posts: 826 (05/11/09 11:19:22) Just showed up |
So Ballard, who has obsessively hunted the Dollhouse, who's been used and betrayed by them; is simply going to join up with them. Morals, sch-morals.
I enjoyed the Saunders surprise, but thought schizophrenic alpha was too cliche. Ballard working for the Dollhouse makes no sense (why not just do up a doll with his schools to find Alpha?). I'm not sure I understand how or why Alpha and Omega come to blows. Endings are hard I guess. I was pleased to see the loose ends tied up: The alpha story gets explained, Ballard is resolved. If it doesn't come back, there are no great questions left unexplained. |
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