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Combat Rites & Attacks of Opportunity

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Hrothgar Rannulfr	Combat Rites & Attacks of Opportunity	Lead	[-]
Posts: 70 (03/21/08 20:39:13) Minimum 1 pt, right? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : attack, combat, rite, opportunity, provoke, activating Question: Does activating a combat rite provoke an attack of opportunity? Hrothgar Rannúlfr Prisoner of the Horned Helm
Mentat55		#1	[-]
Posts: 222 (03/22/08 06:48:05) Somebody Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Activating a combat rite is a free action and it does not provoke an attack of opportunity (all free actions I can think of do not provoke).
Hrothgar Rannulfr		#2	[-]
Posts: 71 (03/22/08 21:58:46) Minimum 1 pt, right? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Except spell-like abilities (such as the disciplines in BOXM) that are free actions... But, combat rites are non-magical. Hrothgar Rannúlfr Prisoner of the Horned Helm
Zaraky		#3	[-]
Posts: 1225 (03/24/08 04:24:12) Spending some time Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	It says it right by the description of how combat rites work that they don't provoke an attack of opportunity. Just think of them as a one activated ability every round for no cost besides it's uses per day limit.
Tiburon Silverflame		#4	[-]
Posts: 7357 (03/24/08 07:20:43) Enigma Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I know Monte said that those did, but IMO, if it requires so little action as to be a free action, there's no way it should provoke an AoO. IMO, anything less than a move action (free, swift, immediate) should never provoke.
Hrothgar Rannulfr		#5	[-]
Posts: 73 (03/24/08 16:10:05) Minimum 1 pt, right? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Zaraky wrote: It says it right by the description of how combat rites work that they don't provoke an attack of opportunity. Thanks. I still don't see that in the description (I must not be looking in the right place), but it does make sense. I just wanted to check after learning that the disciplines (which are free actions that are spell-like abilities) provoke attacks of opportunity. I understand that combat rights are completely non-magical, but the fact that they are structured like spells started me wondering... One of my players is playing an oathsworn and he just began using combat rites over the weekend. It worked very nicely. Thanks, again, for the help. Hrothgar Rannúlfr Prisoner of the Horned Helm
Hrothgar Rannulfr		#6	[-]
Posts: 74 (03/24/08 16:13:31) Minimum 1 pt, right? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tiburon Silverflame wrote: I know Monte said that those did, but IMO, if it requires so little action as to be a free action, there's no way it should provoke an AoO. IMO, anything less than a move action (free, swift, immediate) should never provoke. I see what you're saying, here. However, I'm not ready to go that route until I understand it, better. I'm experimenting with allowing people that are armed with ranged weapons to make attacks of opportunity against anyone that provokes in line of site... It's actually working pretty well. And, it creates interesting attack of opportunity chains for a more fluid battle. Though, I can see why it isn't in the core rules that way. Hrothgar Rannúlfr Prisoner of the Horned Helm
Zaraky		#7	[-]
Posts: 1227 (03/25/08 10:37:56) Spending some time Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I just got my book back and looked for the place where it says that they don't provoke attacks of opportunity. It doesn't say that, but it also doesn't say that they do provoke attacks of opportunity. Since the default is that things don't provoke attacks of opportunity unless they say otherwise I think it's understood that combat rites don't provoke attacks of opportunity.
Hrothgar Rannulfr		#8	[-]
Posts: 75 (03/25/08 13:13:41) Minimum 1 pt, right? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thanks, Zaraky. I appreciate your taking the time to look. Overall, I like the combat rites very much. I'm seeing the possibility of getting more use out of the Ritual Combat Feat when combining AE classes with some of the things in the BoXM (especially thinking about the extra feats). Our group is new to actually using combat rites, so thank you for taking the time to answer. Hrothgar Rannúlfr Prisoner of the Horned Helm

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