I am confused about both of these. Bluff says both that it lasts up to one round OR simply makes the target believe you. When do you know which applies? And
can anyone give me any examples of ways Devious Manipulator is ever even used? When do you typically make multiple bluff checks against one target so often,
but for a complex check, to use this feat chain? Political Mastermind I think I get because it adds its own spin about just spending time with the targets,
but not DM. If I sit at a bar and just lie and lie about my childhood and upbringing, can I make bluff checks to get tokens for the barwench the whole time
until I reach my max? I doubt it, so how is this actually used?


