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        <![CDATA[ Sorry for posting, but I couldn't find an answer (or if there was even an answer) to the question: will there be some kind of 4th Ed update for Ptolus? I'm new to the love of Ptolus (thanks to a friend loaning me his copy), but I don't want to pony up for the core book if I'm just going to buy an updated version next summer. Thanks.  ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: 4th Ed ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ New guy here.  I&#39;ve been running a game in Ptolus since September of &#39;06 and my players love it.  We&#39;ve been discussing what to do with the advent
of 4E and it is the consensus of our group to keep running a 3.5 game.  We all like the system and barring just an absolute brilliant revamp with 4E (and an
equally brilliant conversion system), I don&#39;t plan to change over, at least where Ptolus is concerned.  We&#39;ve finished up NoD and have done some
homebrewed adventures mixed... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:26:32 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: 4th Ed ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Yep, that would be a very useful book <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/smile.gif" alt="image"> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I was most definitely not talking about an ELH-style book. In fact, I think that in this regard, the ELH is a COMPLETE failure.<br><br>What I was talking about is a DMG &quot;how to&quot; book specific to High level gameplay. How to make it work specifically for your group, deep analysis of group and power configurations and how to handle each of those, what type of plot devices will work and what type won't work and why, what spells and abilities to be weary off, how to handle high level... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:49:27 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Well, we got the ELH, but I don't think anyone was really thrilled with that book overall (although it had a few really great monsters). It sounds like 4E will actually be more high-level-friendly than 3E was, and I'm looking forward to adventures up on the spire when my campaign reaches those levels. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:43:15 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Too bad we never had a thorough examination of high-level play in 3.5 done in a &quot;how to&quot;, DMG manner. I wanted an entire supplement about that. I guess it won't be happening now that 4E's around the corner.<div class='signature'><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br>Benoist Poire<br>Iron Liege for the <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.iron-league.com">Iron League</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:37:24 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The adventures material outlined pg 589 for levels 10 and above seem to me to be the most &quot;tool kit&quot;-ish of the adventure material - the material I would most likely do my own extensive development work on anyway to fit to my group and campaign.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I think that's a correct assessment, and it's entirely intentional. I think it's the best way to handle high level stuff,... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> I'm doing a Ptolus campaign as DM. I plan on converting to 4e (if it is any good) with NoD.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Chalk me up as another DM doing this - if the pace of my current gaming group stays up, we will have finished NoD by the end of the winter semester. I'll have all summer to do any conversions to 4e, so we can pick up again in the fall.<br><br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>It's impossible to tell until we see the core books, I think. I kind of hope the conversion's possible. We'll see.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>I absolutely agree that it is impossible to tell until we see the books.  I think it highly impractical to even evaluate if it is worth while to do until we see the new core books.  Maybe 4th Edition will be as dynamic an innovation to D&amp;D as 3E was when it came... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ It's impossible to say if 4E will fit Ptolus' feel. Maybe. There are elements saying to me it can (afterall, it's still dungeons, and dragons, adventuring, killing stuff and looting, et cetera), and yet others might make it not feel right (less reliance on magical items, differences in core classes and races, etc). <br><br>It's impossible to tell until we see the core books, I think. I kind of hope the  conversion's possible. We'll see.<div class='signature'><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Ptolus is the reason I will be playing 3ed for the duration of my gaming life. I will most likely try out 4ed at some point, but it will be a different setting.<div class='signature'>Best,<br>E<br></div> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I'm doing a Ptolus campaign as DM.  I plan on converting to 4e (if it is any good) with NoD.  <div class='signature'><hr>The best weapon against an enemy is another enemy.</div> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:35:02 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Thanks, Monte. I appreciate the quick answer. And let me add I'm totally blown away by Ptolus. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:42:01 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Here's what the horse's mouth says:<br><br>There will be no new Ptolus book converted to 4th edition or any other game system. Nor will there be a reprint, although we'll continue to offer the pdf.<br><br>As to some sort of official conversion document or some such, it seems unlikely, but I suppose anything is possible. It would almost certainly be online only. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ There's almost no chance of a 4th Ed. revised book, given Monte's stance towards future gaming products in general, the history of the setting, etc... That said, I don't think we've actually heard that from the horse's mouth.<br><br>I suspect that <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.delverssquare.com">Delver's Square</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> will eventually host fan-submitted 4E conversions. Not that I'm dying to see these conversions, but I suspect some portion of the community will... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Sorry for posting, but I couldn't find an answer (or if there was even an answer) to the question: will there be some kind of 4th Ed update for Ptolus? I'm new to the love of Ptolus (thanks to a friend loaning me his copy), but I don't want to pony up for the core book if I'm just going to buy an updated version next summer. <br><br>Thanks. ]]></description>

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