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        <![CDATA[ I'm sounding for interest in a campaign for the fall, and one person wants to play a cat psion.  Another wants to play a mouse barbarian.  Aside from the amusing personal problems the two would have, the question is: The cat will have average stats everywhere but Str (+1d3 Cha from awakening, and 3d6 int), which is OK as long as he doesn't want to be an Egoist, but the mouse(rat stats) will just suck with her -8 racial strength mod and 2+1d3 cha.  Even the 2 bonus HD won't really help.  How... ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Cat and Mouse Play ]]></title>
			<link>http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/128938/t/Cat-and-Mouse-Play.html#reply-128938</link>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Minus blindsight and certain skill bonuses, of course. Or, OA gives them physical stats of Str 1, Dex 23 (!), and Con 10. (Hengeyokai.) In any case... Heh. This is /so/ my next character.<br><br>----Llan---- ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Depends on the stats for the sparrow.  I'd use the stats for a bat, myself.  Even Awakened, it would still be really weak.<div class='signature'>Geriatric Jerry is all of Creation, all of Creation, Creation, Boo</div> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Just out of intrest, what /would/ be the ECL on a sparrow bard? o.0<br><br>----Llan---- ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Here's an idea for a reach weapon for Mr. Mouse:  Spiked Chain.<br><br>I figure a spiked chain small enough for the mousie should have reach of 5 (rather than 10).  If he gets improved trip, well...  That'll be interesting.  Very interesting.<br><br><br>Suggest to the mouse player of having his name be &quot;Muso.&quot;<br><br>I'm not sure what language, but it means &quot;mouse&quot;  (probably latin -- musophobia is fear of mice) ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2002 22:15:39 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ The high dex will put its AC thru the roof, though.  And maybe I can give it a 5-foot-reach weapon.<div class='signature'>Geriatric Jerry is all of Creation, all of Creation, Creation, Boo</div> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ The funny thing about a mouse barbarian is, it will have to enter an enemy's square to attack.  Which means it will suffer an attack of opportunity.<br><br>And that strength penalty's gonna be a bitch!  better rage...<br>;-)<br><br>Ken ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ A tiny awakened dire mouse, yep sounds like Jerry more and more <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> . <div class='signature'>"Your focus determines your Reality" Master Qui-Gon.</div> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Thanks, Chai, but I was more worried about abilities; i.e, how to make it not too powerful or too weak.  The character has a background (rather, several--she will have a background by the time the campaign starts).  <div class='signature'>Geriatric Jerry is all of Creation, all of Creation, Creation, Boo</div> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ This wins the award for the weirdest thing I've read on these boards yet! w00t! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>I'll play a hound archon paladin and we can be like Tom &amp; Jerry.<div class='signature'>St. /\/\<br><a href="http://www.chapel-perilous.com" target="_blank">www.chapel-perilous.com</a></div> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Okay, here's my 2 cents worth on this.  You can help the mouse out by making his background original... different.  Say he's not just a &quot;normal&quot; mouse.  There are AT LEAST two options:  1) he/she was formerly another creature:  human, elf, dragon, --you name it-- that was polymorphed into a mouse (so this would explain intelligence and some stats/feats perhaps; and 2) he/she is a normal mouse that lived in the tower of a powerful sorcerer/wizard/whatever, and one day the sorcerer... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Dire status would be cool.  What ECL would that be?  Scent plus average Str as a Small creature plus +6 Dex plus 40ft speed/20ft climb plus 2 extra HD are pretty powerful.  On the other hand, 1d4 damage would suck for a melee type.  What if I made it Tiny?  That'd give -4 Str.  I probably could reduce the speed to 30/15.  Dex would still be +8, but since armor would be obnoxious to find that might be a good idea.  Damage would go down to 1d3, too. How does that sound?<div... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ ROFL. <br><br>Look at what we're talking about! An awakened dire mouse and a psionic cat. Is this Tom &amp; Jerry or Felix the Cat here?<br><br>But, in a weak attempt to be helpful, you could boost the cute furry mouse's mental stats at say +2 each and grant a bonus feat. <br><br>Evade Trap? Provolone Power Cleave? Twitch Whisker? Man, I'm sorry, I can't help myself. I just emptied a dead mouse out of a trap and I'm punchy from little sleep. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Can you have a negative ECL?  It seems like the weaker mouse would gain levels faster than an ECL 0 race.<br><br>That might help redress the problems, at least, by a little. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ The mouse would have scent which the cat wouldn't, scent can be powerful. Though maybe it should be an awakened dire mouse....use dire rat stats <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> , then it will have avg str, high dex and con, avg int, high wis, low cha <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I'm sounding for interest in a campaign for the fall, and one person wants to play a cat psion.  Another wants to play a mouse barbarian.  Aside from the amusing personal problems the two would have, the question is: The cat will have average stats everywhere but Str (+1d3 Cha from awakening, and 3d6 int), which is OK as long as he doesn't want to be an Egoist, but the mouse(rat stats) will just suck with her -8 racial strength mod and 2+1d3 cha.  Even the 2 bonus HD won't really help.... ]]></description>

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