Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/topic/10557/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Wed, 16 May 2007 04:51:04 GMT Sat, 26 May 2007 02:58:45 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Yuku http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/topic/10557/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102684/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102684 feeds@yuku.com (madfox) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102684 Sat, 26 May 2007 02:58:45 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102683/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102683 feeds@yuku.com (Ampherion) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102683 Fri, 25 May 2007 13:09:48 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102682/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102682
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There was supposed to be a follow-up product that put Sigil back together again (with slightly changed factions), but the line was canceled before we could do it.
*blink*

Do tell...

Nah, no recap short of actually writing the book would suffice. Nice to know that wasn't supposed to be the end-point of the story... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Pitchwife) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102682 Fri, 25 May 2007 07:01:10 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102681/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102681 feeds@yuku.com (Monte Cook) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102681 Fri, 25 May 2007 06:04:09 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102680/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102680 feeds@yuku.com (madfox) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102680 Fri, 25 May 2007 01:25:10 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102679/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102679
The best weapon against an enemy is another enemy. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Kadh2000) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102679 Fri, 25 May 2007 01:11:55 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102678/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102678
I don't know what the designers' reason for doing it was, if there was a reason other than "that's where the story went." In game, there was a big inter-factional kerfluffle and the Lady of Pain put an end to it. She being who she is, the "end" she put to it was permanent.

Take care,

Pitchwife
Delver's... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Pitchwife) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102678 Thu, 24 May 2007 13:49:25 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102677/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102677
Anyone know what was WotC's motivation for removing the factions?
The best weapon against an enemy is another enemy.
]]> feeds@yuku.com (Kadh2000) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102677 Thu, 24 May 2007 11:53:42 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102676/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102676
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This does not happen with Expedition to the Demonweb Pits. It DID happen with Expedition to Castle Ravenloft. My guess? The introduction to Sigil is just poor and completely unimaginative, which makes the description of Sigil itself more of an accessory than a real springboard for imaginations.
Wait, what? *perks up*

Sigil's in Expedition to the Demonweb... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Pitchwife) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102676 Thu, 24 May 2007 10:22:58 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102675/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102675 :)

I already stole the Palrethee and Inferno spider encounter for my game. So it's not a complete loss. But like Ben and Kadh said, I'm not going to DM it, ever.

Oh well, lessons learned. I'll spend more time reading reviews before going for an impulse buy. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (jagdell(d)) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102675 Wed, 23 May 2007 18:06:48 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102674/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102674
This does not happen with Expedition to the Demonweb Pits. It DID happen with Expedition to Castle Ravenloft. My guess? The introduction to Sigil is just poor and completely unimaginative, which makes the description of Sigil itself more of an accessory than a real springboard... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Benoist Poire) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102674 Wed, 23 May 2007 17:34:14 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102673/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102673
Kadh, who, if he wanted a memorable fight with demogorgon would have done the adventure path in dungeon mag.
The best weapon against an enemy is another enemy.
]]> feeds@yuku.com (Kadh2000) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102673 Wed, 23 May 2007 03:59:24 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102672/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102672 feeds@yuku.com (madfox) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102672 Mon, 21 May 2007 01:08:20 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102671/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102671
I'm sorry, but the Aspect of Demogorgon should scare me and then kick the **** out of me, not be a speed bump on the way to the 'real' monsters of the adventure. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (LordTenser) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102671 Sat, 19 May 2007 10:04:36 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102670/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102670
What irks me is that I want to like this adventure enough to run it. It is a beautiful piece of work and I love the thought of transplanar adventures to kick some serious Demon Lord Aspect butt. But let's... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (jagdell(d)) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102670 Thu, 17 May 2007 04:30:14 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102669/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102669
I think the adventure is actually pretty good - or at least the plot and storyline is. It lacks details, but that usually doesn't grind on me since I would be changing them left and right anyway. I do agree with you on the demon quenching sword, but that also has to do with the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (madfox) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102669 Thu, 17 May 2007 00:27:13 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102668/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102668
I really liked Ravenloft so I was hoping that this line would continue strongly.

Someone in our group will most likely pick it up anyway, but the other book references won't bother me that much since we have almost all the books WotC has put out. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (smr35516) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102668 Wed, 16 May 2007 16:54:33 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102667/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102667
You're welcome. ;)
feeds@yuku.com (seankreynolds) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102667 Wed, 16 May 2007 08:11:24 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/reply/102666/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html#reply-102666
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Oh and the continuous reference to books I don't own KILLS me. It would have been nice for unplanned encounters (there are quite a few) to propose SRD replacements for encounters taken from other sources, as Dungeon magazine as done in some adventures.


I have not looked over the book yet, but I know that this irks me as well. In most of the Forgotten Realms books there is... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Iron mouser) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/sreply/102666 Wed, 16 May 2007 07:00:27 GMT <![CDATA[ Am I being to harsh? I hate Expedition to the Demonweb pits! ]]> http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/topic/10557/t/Am-I-being-to-harsh-I-hate-Expedition-to-the-Demonweb-pits-.html
Having had fond memories of DMing Queen of the Demonwebs Pits and having a lot of respect for Wolfgang Baur (I am a patron of Open Design) I happily spent the 35$CDN for Expedition to The Demonwebs Pits and dug right into it.... only to find I hate it! I really do.

I'm not a grouch, I'm willing to find good in everything, I'm not a stat bloc lawyer, nor am I adverse to some severe Hack and Slashing, heck I played through feeds@yuku.com (jagdell(d)) http://okayyourturn.yuku.com/topic/10557 Wed, 16 May 2007 04:51:04 GMT